Re: Part 142 for CRM course providers& BASI INDICATE Implementation Guidance

Jeff Brown (brown_at_vine.mv.com)
Tue, 22 Sep 1998 08:51:35 -0400

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Hello Phil, et.al.:

Phil, thank you for the steer. BASI is sending me the implementation =
guidance for the INDICATE program. I'll keep a lookout for the Boeing =
program, and others. =20

Thanks,

Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip M Robertson <philrob_at_writeme.com>
To: crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu <crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu>
Date: Monday, September 21, 1998 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Part 142 for CRM course providers& BASI INDICATE =
Implementation Guidance
=20
=20
Hi Jeff,
=20
Glad to hear you made some progress at long last.........seems to be =
in the right direction, too, by the sounds of it. Try =
http://www.dot.gov.au/programs/basi/basihome.htm for BASI. I think =
you'll find that BASI-INDICATE is not available for download, but it is =
available "free of charge to all aviation companies", in accordance with =
para 1.2 in the Implementation Guide which accompanies the program. =
You'll have to contact BASI direct and ask them if they will send you a =
copy. Another excellent safety resource is Flight Safety Foundation's =
"Aviation Safety: Airline Management Self-Audit" (ICARUS Committee).
=20
Do any CRMers have information on other safety programs which are =
made available from other Air Safety organizations, such as BASI? I'm =
particularly interested in trying to get hold of the BOEING Safety =
Program as well as the NAV CANADA safety management program. Any help or =
details on how to get these would be very much appreciated.
=20
Regards to all, Phil R.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Brown <brown_at_vine.mv.com>
To: crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu <crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu>
Date: Monday, September 21, 1998 4:10 PM
Subject: Part 142 for CRM course providers& BASI INDICATE =
Implementation Guidance
=20
=20
Hello to all,
=20
I apologize for the delay in following up with the group, about =
my August inquiry into our FSDO's belief that our firm requires =
certification under Part 142. Intially, the inspector with whom I spoke =
interpreted 121.402 (a) to require providers of resource management =
training under 121.404, to be certified as a training facility under =
Part 142. The inspector now feels that this interpretation was =
incorrect, and is still seeking a definitive interpretation. I'll share =
whatever else I learn on the subject. =20
=20
With respect to another matter, does anyone know if the BASI =
INDICATE Implementation Guidance is available for download on the =
internet? I've had trouble accessing the BASI site.
=20
Thanks,
=20
Jeff Brown

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Hello Phil, et.al.:
 
Phil, thank you for the steer.  BASI is sending = me the=20 implementation guidance for the INDICATE program.  I'll keep a = lookout for=20 the Boeing program, and others. 
 
Thanks,
 
Jeff
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Philip M Robertson <philrob_at_writeme.com>
To:= =20 crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu <crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu>
Date:=20 Monday, September 21, 1998 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Part = 142 for=20 CRM course providers& BASI INDICATE Implementation=20 Guidance

Hi Jeff,
 
Glad to hear you made some progress at long=20 last.........seems to be in the right direction, too, by the sounds = of it.=20 Try http://www.dot.= gov.au/programs/basi/basihome.htm=20 for BASI. I think you'll find that BASI-INDICATE is not available = for=20 download, but it is available "free of charge to all aviation=20 companies", in accordance with para 1.2 in the Implementation = Guide=20 which accompanies the program. You'll have to contact BASI direct = and ask=20 them if they will send you a copy. Another excellent safety resource = is=20 Flight Safety Foundation's "Aviation Safety: Airline Management = Self-Audit" (ICARUS Committee).
 
Do any CRMers have information on other safety = programs=20 which are made available from other Air Safety organizations, such = as BASI?=20 I'm particularly interested in trying to get hold of the BOEING = Safety=20 Program as well as the NAV CANADA safety management program. Any = help or=20 details on how to get these would be very much = appreciated.
 
Regards to all, Phil R.
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Jeff Brown <brown_at_vine.mv.com>
To:=20 crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu=20 <crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu>
Date:=20 Monday, September 21, 1998 4:10 PM
Subject: Part = 142 for=20 CRM course providers& BASI INDICATE Implementation=20 Guidance

Hello to all,
 
I apologize for the delay in following up = with the=20 group, about my August inquiry into our FSDO's belief that our = firm=20 requires certification under Part 142.  Intially, the = inspector=20 with whom I spoke interpreted 121.402 (a) to require providers = of=20 resource management training under 121.404, to be certified as a = training facility under Part 142.  The inspector now feels = that=20 this interpretation was incorrect, and is still seeking a = definitive=20 interpretation.  I'll share whatever else I learn on the=20 subject. 
 
With respect to another matter, does anyone = know if=20 the BASI INDICATE Implementation Guidance is available for = download on=20 the internet?  I've had trouble accessing the BASI=20 site.
 
Thanks,
 
Jeff=20 Brown
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