Re: Inflight violence

Donald A. Talleur (dtalleur_at_ux1.cso.uiuc.edu)
Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:28:50 -0500

Thanks for the clarification, I didn't spell that out clearly, but I
wasn't arguing who certifies them. Flight attendents do not fall under the
certification classification of flight crewmembers or Airman other than
pilot flight crewmembers specifically. They are certified as a seperate
provision of FAR 121 and subsequently you won't find mention of them
anywhere but 121. Flight crewmemebrs are pilots, airman other than pilots
are navigators and flight engineers. There are seperate and distinct
regulations for these people in part 60 series of regs. Flight attendants
are indeed certified by the FAA, however depending upon what action has
occurred, there is not always immediate grounds for arrest but rather fines
and citations. There is also a specific reg that covers FAA sanctions and
fines (Number alludes me right now). I would suggest, for anyone who is
interested, taking a look at that reg. It provides some interesting insight
into what is considering wrong-doing, etc.

Don

At 06:37 AM 9/11/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Donald--
>
>I do believe Flight Attendants are certified by the FAA, under FAR121 FAA
>approved carrier training. Hence, interference with a Flight Attendant would
>be grounds for immediate arrest upon landing. I also believe that most the
>cases do involve the cabin crew vs the cockpit.
>
>Thanks, Brian..........
>
>Donald A. Talleur wrote:
>>
>> Flight attendents are not Flight crewmembers, airmen, or the like by
>> certification. (reference the FARs) therefore interfering with them alone
>> probably falls under some different laws. However, the premise of
>> "interfence" is not solely with the flight crewmembers. If you interfere
>> with the safe operation of the flight (via a flight attendant or any other
>> means) you are violating federal laws for which there are a whole slew of
>> fines and jail times established for. If you simply assult a flight
>> attendant but bring no harm to the flight or "interfere" with it's saftey,
>> a loose interpretation may allow civil penalities to be imposed. Bottom
>> line: it is a federal offense to place the safe outcome of a flight (of any
>> kind) in jeopardy.
>>
>> Don
>>
>> At 09:40 PM 9/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>> >
>> >I for one am quite shocked at the story. I was under the impression that
>> >interference with a flight crew, particularly during flight, was a felony
>> >under American law. To me, the flight attendents qualify as flight
crew, so
>> >if they are treated adversely, shouldn't that law apply?
>> >
>> >You have my sympathy and condolences, Mike. I hope your wife recovers,
and
>> >some sort of justice can bring you and your family some peace.
>> >
>> >Greg Deen
>> >
>
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