Re: Building in a system bias against CRM?

Mike Courtney (mcourt_at_gte.net)
Mon, 25 May 1998 16:35:46 -0400

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jjb wrote:
>
> The rating ride described in a previous posting was typical of the rating
> rides I had (at UAL).
>
> I found this disturbing at the time, as UAL was very much a leader in
> implemeting CLR (CRM) after our accident at PDX.
>
> All the ratings given (to my knowlege) used the concept that the PNF would
> do ONLY what he was instructed to do by the rating candidate. He was NOT
> to give any un-asked for assistance of ANY kind.
>
> (If the PF did not specfically ask for something (like pulling up the
> gear), the PNF WAS PROHIBITED from pointing out the omission!)
>
> I don't know if this is still in effect, but I believe that this is the
> standard way that that the FAA (STILL) conducts all ratings on all US
> airlines.
>
> jj
>

JJ,

Fortunately, it isn't standard, but around 1/2 of the rating rides my
students have gone up for in the last few years have been conducted in
that archaic manner. Other feds have simply been satisfied with using
normal company procedures.

I guess 1/2 is an improvement; as you said, at one time all rating rides
were conducted without using the crew concept.

Mike Courtney

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