Re: CRM Definition
Anthony Sasso (Anthony.Sasso_at_nwa.com)
Wed, 28 May 1997 10:49:40 -0700
Maj Alex Bapty wrote:
>
> Since brainwashing has come up in conjunction with the teaching of CRM here is the definition of brainwashing:
>
> brain·wash·ing (brân¹wòsh îng, -wô shîng) noun
> 1. Intensive, forcible indoctrination, usually political or religious, aimed at destroying a person's basic convictions and attitudes and
replacing them with a
> 2. The application of a concentrated means of persuasion, such as an advertising campaign or repeated suggestion, in order to develop a
specific belief or moti
>
> Where as the military certainly does try to motivate individuals, to imply "we" are brainwashed is excessive. If that were true, we could
throw out the UCMJ,
>
> >>> "Heinle, Todd" <heinlet_at_12medgrp.rnd.aetc.af.mil> 05/27 1:43 PM >>>
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> In response to your posting below, I just want let you know that I take
> exception to your comment that "In the military you are brainwashed,
> period." I have been in the US Air Force for the past 11 years, most of that
> time (6 ½ years as a C-130 navigator, 3 years as an instructor at the
> navigator school, and as an aerospace physiologist for the past year or so)
> has been free of what most individuals would class as "brainwashing." I
> guess that my problem with your statement is that is an over-generalization
> about the military that uses a term with very negative overtones.
>
> Personally, I feel that I am better trained and more open-minded for having
> spent time in the military than I would have been had I stayed as a
> civilian. I may be the exception, which is not to say exceptional, and much
> of this may be due to the extensive traveling associated with the C-130.
>
> I apologize if this seem to be a bit overboard on the response, but your, to
> my mind, glib comment was out of line.
>
> If the CRM definition is to be "brainwashing" then the negative overtones
> must somehow be "washed" out, because after all, isn't much of the
> "training" that is conducted just brainwashing (behavior modification, child
> rearing, etc) by another name.
>
> Capt Todd E. Heinle
> Aerospace Physiologist
> Randolph AFB, TX
>
> Paul,
>
> You may well be right, but what kind of bunch are we if we can't be
> honest. I do not have to please someone by telling a lie about basic
> facts. In the military you are brainwashed, period. Since the military
> have a CRM program, the definition will be erroneous if we do not talk
> about brainwashing. If you really have a problem with this otherwise
> correct term then give me one. Keep in mind the Dr. Morphew wants a
> concise definition.
> Original text: (99 lines follow)
> From: AMADOU$I_at_SMTP (AMADOU, IBRAHIM) {AMADOU_I_at_casa.gov.au}, on 5/26/97
> 8:14 PM:
> Paul,
>
> You may well be right, but what kind of bunch are we if we can't be
> honest. I do not have to please someone by telling a lie about basic
> facts. In the military you are brainwashed, period. Since the military
> have a CRM program, the definition will be erroneous if we do not talk
> about brainwashing. If you really have a problem with this otherwise
> correct term then give me one. Keep in mind the Dr. Morphew wants a
> concise definition.
>
> Thanks
>
> >----------
> >From: Paul Sherman[SMTP:paul.sherman_at_mail.utexas.edu]
> >Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 1997 1:56
> >To: crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu
> >Subject: RE: CRM Definition
> >
> >Regarding Dr. Amadou's CRM definition:
> >
> >"Brainwashing" is quite a pejorative term -- might there be a way to get
> >your meaning across without using such a loaded word?
> >
> >I don't believe that the various training departments would agree with your
> >terming CRM remediation "brainwashing". Nor would trainers like seeing this
> >as part of their job descriptions.
> >
> >Paul Sherman
> >
> >
> >At 03:49 PM 5/26/97 +1000, you wrote:
> >>What is CRM?
> >>
> >>Crew Resource Management (CRM) is a dynamic human to human "systems"
> >>process applied to some environment and consisting of an optimum and
> >>efficient use of part or all human resources available to carry out a
> >>mission under particular circumstances and in a team approach way. The
> >>mission preparation consists of raising in the first instance, the
> >>awareness of team members about the specifics of the operation, then the
> >>sustenance of such awareness up to mastery through various
> >>psycho-socio-linguistic stages, spanning from behavioral modification
> >>and conditioning, to brainwashing, counseling and a comprehensive and
> >>adaptive training in situation awareness, communication, decision-making
> >>and leadership, continuously in a team approach mode.
> >>
> >>Hope this will help.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Dr. Ibrahim Amador
> >>Airways Engineering Specialist
> >>Airways Surveillance & Regulation Branch
> >>Civil Aviation Safety Authority Australia
> >>GPO Box 2005
> >>CANBERRA CITY, ACT 2601
> >>Australia
> >>
> >>
> >>>----------
> >>>From: M. Ephimia Morphew[SMTP:emorphew_at_s.psych.uiuc.edu]
> >>>Sent: Sunday, 25 May 1997 8:14
> >>>To: crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu
> >>>Subject: CRM Definition
> >>>
> >>>Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> I am in pursuit of a well accepted, up-to-date definition of CRM
> >>>for publishing a feature on the Industry CRM Developers in the next issue
> >>>of Human Performance in Extreme Environments.
> >>>
> >>> I would appreciate it greatly if someone could provide me with such
> >>>an accurate, most widely accepted, and up-to-date definition of CRM. Also
> I
> >>>would request that you allow me to cite you in the body of the text
> >>>referring to the definition.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks much,
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Ephimia
> >>>
> >>>____________________________________________________________
> >>>M. Ephimia Morphew,
> >>>President, The Society for Human Performance in Extreme Environments
> >>>HPEE, 2156 Harbortown Circle, Champaign, IL 61821
> >>>emorphew_at_s.psych.uiuc.edu, (217) 359-3469
> >>>
> >>>Human Perception & Performance Lab, Beckman Institute
> >>>405 N. Mathews Ave., Rm B500, Urbana, IL 61801,ph:217-244-4461
> >>>fax:217-244-8371
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
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> Okay. I think we've established the fact that the brainwashing issue is
being beaten to death. In fact, it has gotten so out of hand that I
couldn't help myself, and I am actually replying to this subject! I
think you all have brainwashed me... Please stop the madness.
Tony (Sasso, not Kern)