re:Go Around

Major Tony T. Kern, 472-4727 (KernTT.DFH.USAFA_at_usafa.af.mil)
Tue, 13 Jan 98 7:45:04 MST


Mark
An interesting discussion item, to be sure. I have always taught three
stages of intervention. The first a simple suggestion containing
specifics for the rationale. "Captain, we need to take this one around, we
hare high and 20 knots hot." The second step is a standardized
"assertiveness statement" which contains much more forceand contains
a "magic" aviation word -- "immediately". "Captain, you are dangerously
fast, execute a go-around IMMEDIATELY. The final step is assume
control (not command) of the aircraft to prevent a mishap, returning
control as soon as the danger has passed.
The key word "immediately" has a special meaning to pilots and is
used by air traffic controllers to keep metal off of metal. If not
overutilized, it will often work when other voerbal prods do not.

Tony Kern

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Sent by:Mark Pitt <M.Pitt_at_xtra.co.nz>

I have often had the discussion about how a First Officer can
effectively initiate a go-around when the Captain is flying an
instrument approach to minimums.

Obviously there are some CRM factors do deal with very close to the
ground which are exaserbated by the so called "get-on-the-ground-itis".

It almost seems like pride can pressure pilots into making the approach
complete - no matter what! All this aside, the First Officer (FO)
performing a support duty can break this cycle with suitable CRM tools.

If the captain ignores the command from the FO to go around then a most
undesirable situation exists. Some discussions I have had now follow.

Some pilots have said the FO could select the gear handle "UP" or just
take control and deal with the consequences later.

A less aggressive approach is to transmit "Going Around" on the control
tower frequency - it is highly probable (but not certain) the captain
will commence the go-around.

A more educated approach to this type of problem comes from airlines
that have several phases in a support process with the ultimate
instruction to correct the aircraft flightpath highlighted by the words
"Captain you must act now, go around" or "Captain you must listen to
me,
go around". If no action is taken then the FO takes control.

Can anyone elaborate on these discussions?

Mark

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