RE: results

David Sulsberger (rapcon_at_sunet.net)
Sat, 10 Jan 1998 07:49:53 -0500


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You have probably already considered this as an avenue of research, but =
if not, what about a questionaire directly to line crews who have worked =
through the creation and evolution of CRM. In the questionaire ask =
specifically how individuals viewed CRM: has it helped, and would they =
give examples of situations in which CRM prevented what may have =
otherwise resulted in an accident or incident. How many would respond =
is always the big question. However, if done properly and with the =
appropriate amount of anonimity, I think the results would be =
informative and of great value in answering the question you are dealing =
with. It may be that this type of study has already been done. If so, =
great. If not, I think this kind of first hand information from =
aircrews would be better than studies that look at related data and =
attempt to identify trends that may or may not be the result of CRM. =
Good Luck!

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From: Richard S. Jensen[SMTP:jensen.6_at_osu.edu]
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 1998 1:42 AM
To: crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu
Subject: Re: results

Tracy,

Dr. Al Diehl wrote a paper a while back on this topic:

Diehl, A. (1992, January). Does cockpit management training reduce =
aircrew
error? ISASI Forum, 24(4).

In Chapter 5 of my book, "Pilot Judgment and Crew Resource Management"
(available from Ashgate 802-276-3162), I go through the history of =
research
showing the effectiveness of judgment and CRM training. I continue to =
study
the topic here at OSU with support from the FAA.

Much more is needed and I think you have picked a great topic for you
graduate research. Please let me know how it goes. I hope to see your
results at the Symposium on Aviation Psychology some day.

Dick

At 09:40 PM 1/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>CRMers,
>I am an A.C.T. (crm) instructor for the Navy's P-3 platform. Recently =
a
>perspective squadron C.O. during my C.O. brief stated to me that he =
really
>believed in the program BUT, wanted to know where is the proof that it
>works to convince those who don't believe. This was a difficult =
challenge.
> The Navy sells ACT as a tool to improve mission effectiveness, yet =
there
>are no studies that I am aware of that show this especially platform
>specific studies. I am taking this on as a challenge and have decided =
to
>make it my Graduate Research Project. Does anyone know of any =
existing
>research that may show a decrease in accidents since the introduction =
of
>CRM. I am looking for something that I could use as an example for
>research into the hypothesis that ACT has increased mission =
effectiveness
>in the P-3. Any ideas or help would be welcome.
> Lt Tracy Day=20
>
>

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