Re: Question: CVR

Chuck Moren (MorenC_at_cts.db.erau.edu)
Thu, 5 Feb 1998 11:04:16 -0500


Jens

The Boeing 727 overran the end runway 16 at Ketchican Alaska and came
to a stop 700 beyond the end of the runway...Hull Loss - 1 fatal, 32
major, 17 minor.

The aircraft crossed the threshold at Vref + 30 kts


Stay warm Jens

Chuck Moren
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University
Daytona Beach Florida USA

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Subject: Question: CVR
Author: crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu at Internet-Mail
Date: 2/5/98 2:20 PM


Hello CRM'ers

A short question from a winterly and cold Norway (Yesterday the
temperature in some parts of the country dropped to -45 degrees
Celsius):

Do any of you recognise the following conversation:

First Officer: Isn't this a little faster than you normally fly this
John?
Captain: Oh yeah, but it's nice and smooth. We're going to get in
right on time, maybe a little ahead of time. We've got it made.
First Officer: I sure hope so.
Engineer: You know, John, do you know the difference between a
duck and a co-pilot?
Captain: What's the difference?
Engineer: Well a duck can fly!
Captain: Well said!
Co-pilot: Seems like there's a bit of a tailwind up here,
John.
Captain: Yeah, we're saving gas, helps us to get in a
coupe of minutes early too..

Is it correct that this conversation took place on board a B727
approaching an airport somewhere in Oregon? When did this happen? Is it
correct that the aircraft crashed after touching down near the far end
of the runway?

Thanks!

Jens
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