Re: Emergency Talk

CRMDEEN_at_aol.com
Mon, 3 Feb 1997 21:00:33 -0500 (EST)


Tony Sasso makes excellent points, to which I agree with his vision. As much
as I hope we will soon not need the assertiveness phrases, the reality is
that sometimes they are crucial to use.

1. Must we get to the conflict stage? When the situation requires
"nastiness" to break an error chain, then it is good that a crewmember have a
nastiness tool, and uses it. I still believe CRM training can produce
effective teamwork, and avoid such a need. In the meantime though, the tool
needs to be there.

2. When I speak favorably of people using the "Time Out" procedure, I am
coming from a history of banging my head against the wall for many years.
That people are FINALLY speaking up, is to me, a sign of progress. I am now
looking for the crews to start reporting they have never been in a situation
where the tool needed to be used.( because of effective teamwork all along)
In all fairness, I do get those indications also. Again, after so many years
of CRM teaching, I can look back and see progress.

3. Part of the past includes dealing with those crewmembers who saw CRM as
a call for hugging; group hugs, "holding hands in the hot tub" and all of
that lovey-dovey stuff. I thought we were progressing past this also.
Unfortunately, just today, a fellow instructor told me some of our C-130
pilots returning for PIC and Instructor upgrade believe CRM is diluting their
power and authority. AC's are afraid to continue a local trainer when one of
the crewmembers complain about fatigue or distress. The complaints seem to be
more common in the "active" forces, vice the guard/reserves. When I asked
why the AC's are so quick to take an ultra-conservative course, the answer is
they are "gun-shy about sticking their neck out--the commanders might not
support them".
Hummm, I wonder if unit culture has something to do with this.
Thanks for the points, Tony.

Greg Deen
HTI-C-130 ATS