Request for Opinion (Forward from Jordan Brooks)

Neil C. Krey (neilkrey_at_mail.airmail.net)
Sat, 13 Dec 1997 10:08:13 -0500


The following message from Jordan Brooks bounced for technical reasons. I
am forwarding it unchanged.

Neil

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 08:16:12 -0500
From: Jordan Brooks <74322.352_at_compuserve.com>
Subject: Request for Opinion
To: "INTERNET:crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu" <crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu>

You asked for opinions, well ...

> (Training regulations require training missions to cancel if aircraft is
not ready for departure within 4)
Disregard for regulations, poor decision making & possible conflict between
crewmembers.

> the PIC elected to not cancel the flight, as required.
Same as above.

> the crew was now approximately 14 hours into their crew duty day (student
training days are regulated to > 12).
Again, same as above

> Specific task delegation is not published, but the usual habits of our
crews is that the copilot sets the radio > and navigational frequencies
into the FMS, and the navigator programs the waypoints and mode >
sequences.
OK, so it's not written, but there is some consistancy in a procedure that
everyone follows -- or do they and do new trainees have that knowledge.

> The navigator becomes quite busy monitoring the approach with the radar,
paying particular attention to the > terrain. During the descent, the
aircraft broke clouds, and the copilot recognized the.field, not in the
front of > the aircraft, but several miles toward the 2 o'clock position.
Good situational awareness for both copilot and navigator (I couldn't beat
this situation completely up!!)

> The pilots said that they had told the navigator to do a localizer
approach, and ASSUMED the navigator > would tune the proper frequency.
The navigator recalled the pilot briefing a localizer approach, but did not
> hear the pilot direct him to set the frequency. The flight examiner
navigator did not hear this either. The > copilot ASSUMED the nav would
set the frequency, even though that is normally done by the copilot.
Go back to the "task delegation" remark and throw in two (2) ASSUMEDs -- I
won't even go any further.

Jordan Brooks
Comair

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Neil Krey
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