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> From: Keasal, David <KeasalD_at_fsi045.flightsafety.com>
> To: 'crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu'
> Subject: RE: Culture
> Date: Martes 18 de Agosto de 1998 12:48 PM
>
>
> Hi Luis,
>
> I've had the experience of working with two major Colombian airlines in
CRM,
> and your point is well made. Not only is there a distinct cultural
> difference between US and Colombian pilots, but distinct cultural
> differences between the two airlines. Dr. Helmreich's excellent work on
the
> Avianca 052 accident where the Boeing 707 ran out of fuel on approach to
JFK
> covered many excellent points.
>
> Aviation activity is increasing tremendously in Latin America, and there
is
> a real need for people to work on this subject.
>
> It would be very interesting to hear more viewpoints from INSIDE the
culture
> as well. It appears to me that you are very well placed to do that,
since
> you have experience in both worlds.
>
> Dave Keasal
>
>
> Any opinions expressed are my own and do not reflect the position or
> opinions of FlightSafety International.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pipe [SMTP:piperj100_at_epm.net.co]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 1:17 PM
> > To: crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu
> > Subject: RE: Culture
> >
> >
> > Why are we always refering to the asian culture when we all talk about
the
> > cultural issue? (most of the examples though....)
> > I am not asian,I am a colombian pilot who had the fortune to fly and
live
> > in
> > the United States,and experinced the American culture as well as my own
> > culture of course( now I live and fly in Colombia).Why don`t we bring
the
> > issue of latins in US cockpits and innovate a little?
> >
> > Luis F R
> > Copilot RJ-100
> > Sam Airlines
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > De: cxcrm <cxcrm_at_cxair.com>
> > Para: crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu <crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu>
> > Fecha: Lunes 17 de Agosto de 1998 11:24 PM
> > Asunto: Re: Culture
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Ashleigh Merritt wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Steve and others,
> > >>
> > >> re your questions
> > >> > Did anybody discuss either of the following at the conference?
> > >> >
> > >> >1) The issue of people from different cultures operating in the
same
> > >> >cockpit as a crew.
> > >> >
> > >> >2) How a pilot performs, CRM wise, as a function of the culture in
> > which
> > >> >the pilot received their initial flight training. ie. a) A pilot
> > receiving
> > >> >initial flight training in the same culture as their home culture
and
> > b)
> > a
> > >> >pilot receiving initial flight training in a different culture to
> > their
> > home
> > >> >culture.
> > >>
> > >> yes both these issues were discussed in different groups. In answer
to
> > your
> > >> first question, there was strong recognition that the company
culture
> > can
> > >> help channel the different national cultures via good SOP's. There
was
> > also
> > >> agreement that acknowledging cultural differences was an important
step
> > in
> > >> developing harmony. John Bent of Cathay Pacific has some interesting
> > views
> > >> on this subject (we don't completely agree, but that makes it more
> > >> interesting)
> > >>
> > >> The issue of initial flight training outside one's national culture
was
> > >> raised by some people from China I believe. They know that their
cadet
> > >> pilots return with different values, and that this causes problems,
but
> > >> interestingly, they are not sure what to do about it. The don't know
> > >> whether to pull the cadets to the old values, or push some of the
> > older/
> > >> ex-military pilots to the new values. There is a struggle for best
> > >> practices within the airline, as I imagine there is in most
airlines.
> > >> Ashleigh
> > >>
> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >> DEDALE
> > >> fax: +33 1 48 62 62 05
> > >> 4 Place de Londres, BP 10767, 95727 Roissy CDG Cedex, FRANCE
> > >>
> > >> Ashleigh Merritt email: amerritt_at_worldnet.fr ph: +33 1 48 64
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> > 47
> > >> Christine Fassert email: cfassert_at_worldnet.fr ph: +33 1 48 64
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> > 50
> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >Following on from Ashlrigh's valid comments, the workshop I attended
at
> > >the conference contained an extremely impressive trio of
representatives
> > >from an Asian carrier. To say the least, their input was extraordinary
> > >even though only one of them was fluent in English. They were quite
> > >emphatic that cadets learning in another country had a slower
transition
> > >into the operation. Their current preference was to train locally and
> > >allow the international exposure to occur at a later date. This
> > >probably opens a huge debate, but I am obliged to offer no further due
> > >to the confidentiality agreement that we undertook in the workshop
other
> > >than to say that I learnt a lot which I always do..
> > >Julian Hipwell
> > >