Re: FW: Currency Requirements For CRM

Rob Collyer (rob.collyer_at_rocketmail.com)
Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:16:26 -0700 (PDT)

Ken
Thanks for the follow-up. The validatin so far indicates that most
aircrew (and in time it will be aircrew, flightline and maintenance)
believe that they use the CRM skills every day, every flight. What is
also interesting is that many volunteer that they use the skills out
of the aircraft as well as in it. Some also recognise that they now
use the skills at home, etc. I think this indicates many positive
things about the skills. We are in the process of developing an
add-in for our squadron standards officers to use on their routine
standards evaluation flights. This will come from validation research
being done for us by a university lecturer (Tony Machin) interested in
transfer of team skills. Much of this comes from the work of Eduardo
Salas et al and has its origins with US Navy research.

The 3 years is only for formally facilitated case study seminar work.
I would be reluctant to refer to it as 'academic'. There is also much
in the concepts of Keith Hendy on captaincy and decision-making which
we will need to look at as well.

Regards,

Rob

---"Bauer, Kenneth, CAPT, XOOT" <bauerk_at_af.pentagon.mil> wrote:
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> Rob, 3 years would seem to be an excessive time for someone to
retain
> skills without use. Do you practice CRM in between the 3 year
academic
> refresher (LOFT, in the aircraft scenarios, etc.)? Have you looked
at a
> reduction in reducing emphasis on academic training and increasing
the
> emphasis on the operational skills in a LOFT/Simulator exercise for
the
> follow on training? The idea, if they remember the material well,
then
> allowing them to practice the skill may be more beneficial than just
an
> academic refresher. Thoughts
>
> Ken
> ----------
> From: Rob Collyer
> To: crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu; crm-devel_at_db.erau.edu
> Subject: Re: Currency Requirements For CRM
> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 1997 6:32PM
>
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> MAJ Alex Babty raised the issue of currency for CRM training. Our
> view is that in a military organisation the refresher training for
CRM
> will be conducted on the same basis as aviation medicine refresher
> training. At present that is every three years. The initial training
> is skills based, with every module requiring a clearly identifieable
> skill to be transferred - otherwise the module was not inlcuded in
the
> seminar type course. We envisage that the refresher training will be
> case study based.
>
> Incidently, we are also looking at a layered validation of CRM (which
> we call Aviation Team Training - ATT). The first level is the normal
> end of course validation that most organisation which use a systems
> approach employ. The second level is a pre-course, one-month post
> course and 12 months post course questionnaire/interview approach
> looking at the transfer of team skills training. The final level is
> the difficult one and will probably take a few years, but we are
> looking to try to develop an objective measure based on simulation
> flight. Just about everyone who has done the ATT so far is very
> enthusiastic about it, but while a warm fuzzy feeling is good for
> morale and other aspects of organisational climate, it doesn't
justify
> the expense of a course which purports to achieve other objectives
too.
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> I will continue to follow our discussion about CRM validation with
> great interst,
>
> Rob Collyer
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> ---Maj Alex Bapty <Baptya_at_do.aetc.af.mil> wrote:
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> > Just a few questions. Any answers or opinions are appreciated.
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> > There is currently a concern for standardization and level of
> sophistication in CRM training. We have basically three approaches
> to CRM training for operational aircrew. A classroom only
> lecture/facilitation type, a classroom facilitation with Mission
> oriented simulator training (LOFT) reinforcement type, and a PC based
> interactive mission type. Which one is the correct approach? Is
> there a wrong approach?
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> > How often is CRM training required? Can currency requirements be
> based on experience level
> > of aircrew? How much CRM training is required? How do you measure
> it's effectiveness? What do you do for aircrew members that do not
> have a station in the simulator? How realistic does the training
have
> to
> > be?
> > Should CRM be integrated in the everyday environment in place of or
> in addition to annual CRM training? How do you integrate the
> training into everyday operations without it becoming just another
> square filler in the over tasked mission environment?
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> >
> >
> > Maj Alex Bapty
> > HQ AETC/DOFA
> > CRM Program Manager
> > DSN 487-5010
> > Comm (210) 652-5010
> > baptya_at_do.aetc.af.mil
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